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Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-05-01

Thryv Holdings, Inc. Q1 2026 Earnings Call Summary

Moby

The company has successfully flipped its business model from a marketing services firm to a 70% SaaS revenue company, driven by small businesses seeking lead conversion tools. Marketing Center grew approximately 30% year-over-year, serving as the centerpiece of the 'Market, Sell, Grow' strategy to attract higher-quality leads for clients. Management is deliberately targeting larger small businesses (midsized clients with ~$1M+ revenue) who exhibit higher retention, deeper engagement, and greater lifetime value. SaaS ARPU increased 13% year-over-year to $378, reflecting the successful shift toward higher-caliber clients with more complex operational needs. Quality customers now represent 70% of SaaS revenue, up from 62% a year ago, validating the strategic focus on high-value relationships over raw subscriber volume. Early adoption of AI-powered capabilities, including lead scoring and image generation, is exceeding expectations and making the platform stickier within client workflows. Management expects to return to overall top-line growth by 2027 as the SaaS business increasingly offsets the managed decline of legacy services. The company aims to double annualized client spend from $4,000 to $8,000 over the next 4 to 5 years through upmarket expansion and multi-product adoption. A new unified platform is being developed from the ground up with integrated AI agents to replace current standalone offerings and simplify the user experience. Marketing Services is on a managed exit path by 2028, with residual cash flows expected to last through 2030 to ensure liquidity during the software transformation. Full-year SaaS revenue guidance was raised at the low end to a range of $463 million to $471 million, reflecting confidence in the current growth trajectory. SaaS adjusted gross margin of 67% was diluted by a strategic decision to upgrade low-margin digital agency customers to the SaaS platform at no price change. Seasoned NRR of 93% reflects natural attrition among subscale, lower-spend clients as the company transitions away from its legacy subscriber base. Marketing Services EBITDA will experience timing variations in Q2 due to a lighter print publication schedule, though this does not impact billings or free cash flow. Net debt stood at $258 million at quarter-end, representing a leverage ratio of 1.7x as the company maintains a disciplined capital structure....

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-05-01

Thryv (THRY) Q1 2026 Earnings Transcript

Motley Fool

Image source: The Motley Fool. Thursday, Apr. 30, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET Chief Executive Officer — Joe Walsh Chief Financial Officer — Paul Rouse Chief Strategy Officer — Cameron Lessard Joe Walsh: Thank you, Cameron, and good morning, everyone. I will highlight our first quarter results and key trends and hand it over to Paul Rouse to walk you through the numbers, and then Cameron will take you through some of our forward guidance. We had a strong quarter. SaaS revenue of $117 million came in ahead of expectations, and Marketing Services outperformed as well, resulting in total company adjusted EBITDA that beat our guidance. Quality customers now represent 70% of revenue and annualized client spend has eclipsed $4,500. We are now a 70% SaaS revenue company. A few years ago, we were a marketing services business with software on the side. Today, that equation has fully flipped, and it happened because small businesses are telling us through their buying behavior that they need what we offer. The clearest signal of that is Marketing Center, which grew around 30% year-over-year in Q1. Small businesses want to get found online, drive high-quality leads and convert those leads into lasting customer relationships. That's exactly what Marketing Center does, and the growth reflects that fit. It is the centerpiece of our Market, Sell, Grow strategy, and its continued momentum validates that strategy is working. We're also seeing strong results in our upmarket motion, attracting and winning larger small businesses than we've historically served. These are clients with more complexity, more needs and more to spend, and that's showing up directly in our numbers. ARPU grew to $378 a month, up 13% year-over-year with annualized client spend eclipsing $4,500, a direct result of serving higher-caliber clients. And because larger businesses engage more deeply and expand their spend over time and stay longer, the lifetime value of these clients is fundamentally better. You'll remember, we've talked about moving from 4,000 to 8,000 over the next kind of 4 or 5 years. We feel strongly that, that upmarket move is gaining traction at this point. Quality customer count grew 6% year-over-year and now represents 70% of SaaS revenue, up from 62% a year ago. That trajectory tells you the mix shift is working, and it's a dynamic we're leaning into deliberately. I also want to touch on A...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-05-01

Thryv Q1 Earnings Call Highlights

MarketBeat

SaaS now 70% of revenue: Q1 SaaS revenue was $116.7M (+5% YoY), ARPU rose 13% to $378 with 96,000 subscribers, and multi‑product adoption plus Marketing Center growth (~30% YoY) are driving an up‑market shift toward higher‑value customers. Intentional near‑term margin trade‑off: Management is migrating low‑margin marketing services clients into SaaS (no price increase), which compressed SaaS adjusted EBITDA to $10.8M (9% margin) but is viewed as a strategic investment to improve long‑term profitability and retention. Guidance and balance sheet: Thryv raised the low end of full‑year SaaS revenue to $463–$471M and increased marketing services revenue outlook while keeping SaaS adj. EBITDA guidance intact; net debt was $258M (1.7x leverage) and the company plans to exit marketing services by 2028. Interested in Thryv Holdings, Inc.? Here are five stocks we like better. Thryv (NASDAQ:THRY) reported first-quarter 2026 results that management characterized as a “strong quarter,” led by SaaS revenue that came in ahead of expectations and marketing services that also outperformed guidance. Chairman and CEO Joe Walsh said the company is now “a 70% SaaS revenue company,” highlighting continued mix shift toward higher-value customers and product adoption across its Market, Sell, and Grow strategy. Walsh said SaaS revenue totaled $117 million in the quarter, while marketing services also exceeded expectations, helping total company adjusted EBITDA beat guidance. CFO Paul Rouse reported SaaS revenue of $116.7 million, up 5% year over year, with a 67% SaaS adjusted gross margin. → Corning Beats Q1 Estimates but Drops 9% on Guidance Miss SaaS adjusted EBITDA was $10.8 million, producing a 9% margin. Rouse noted the quarter’s SaaS profitability was pressured by a strategic move to upgrade “low-margin large digital agency customers” from the marketing services base to SaaS “with no change in pricing.” He said Thryv previously lacked an upgrade path for these customers under Business Center, but Market, Sell, and Grow provides a new motion, with Keap marketing automations viewed as a significant upsell opportunity over time. Rouse said gross margin compression from this initiative was “the primary factor of Adjusted EBITDA coming in below guidance for the quarter,” describing it as a deliberate near-term investment. In marketing services, revenue was $50.9 million, above guid...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-30

Thryv Holdings, Inc. (THRY) Tops Q1 Earnings and Revenue Estimates

Zacks

Thryv Holdings, Inc. (THRY) came out with quarterly earnings of $0.18 per share, beating the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $0.17 per share. This compares to a loss of $0.22 per share a year ago. These figures are adjusted for non-recurring items. This quarterly report represents an earnings surprise of +5.88%. A quarter ago, it was expected that this company would post earnings of $0.4 per share when it actually produced a loss of $0.12, delivering a surprise of -130%. Over the last four quarters, the company has surpassed consensus EPS estimates just once. Thryv, which belongs to the Zacks Internet - Software industry, posted revenues of $167.68 million for the quarter ended March 2026, surpassing the Zacks Consensus Estimate by 3.96%. This compares to year-ago revenues of $181.37 million. The company has topped consensus revenue estimates four times over the last four quarters. The sustainability of the stock's immediate price movement based on the recently-released numbers and future earnings expectations will mostly depend on management's commentary on the earnings call. Thryv shares have lost about 39.5% since the beginning of the year versus the S&P 500's gain of 4.2%. While Thryv has underperformed the market so far this year, the question that comes to investors' minds is: what's next for the stock? There are no easy answers to this key question, but one reliable measure that can help investors address this is the company's earnings outlook. Not only does this include current consensus earnings expectations for the coming quarter(s), but also how these expectations have changed lately. Empirical research shows a strong correlation between near-term stock movements and trends in earnings estimate revisions. Investors can track such revisions by themselves or rely on a tried-and-tested rating tool like the Zacks Rank, which has an impressive track record of harnessing the power of earnings estimate revisions. Ahead of this earnings release, the estimate revisions trend for Thryv was mixed. While the magnitude and direction of estimate revisions could change following the company's just-released earnings report, the current status translates into a Zacks Rank #3 (Hold) for the stock. So, the shares are expected to perform in line with the market in the near future. You can see the complete list of today's Zacks #1 Rank (Strong Buy) stocks here. It will be...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-30

Thryv Grows SaaS Revenue in First Quarter 2026, Exceeds Total Company Revenue and EBITDA Guidance

Business Wire

Q1 SaaS Revenue Grows to 70% of Total Revenue Q1 Marketing Center Revenue Growth of 29% Year-Over-Year Q1 SaaS Monthly ARPU Increases 13% Year-Over-Year to $378 AI Delivering for Clients — Rapid Adoption Across New Platform Features DALLAS, April 30, 2026--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Thryv Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ:THRY) ("Thryv" or the "Company"), the provider of Thryv®, the leading small business marketing and sales software platform, reported results for the first quarter of 2026. First Quarter Financial 2026 Highlights: SaaS revenue was $116.7 million, a 5.0% increase year-over-year Marketing Services revenue was $50.9 million, a 27.5% decrease year-over-year Consolidated total revenue was $167.7 million, a decrease of 7.5% year-over-year Consolidated net income increased to $4.5 million, or $0.10 per diluted share; compared to net loss of $9.6 million, or $(0.22) per diluted share, for the first quarter of 2025 Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA was $24.1 million, representing an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 14.4% SaaS Adjusted EBITDA was $10.8 million, representing an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 9.3% Marketing Services Adjusted EBITDA was $13.2 million, representing an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 26.0% Consolidated Gross Profit was $109.3 million Consolidated Adjusted Gross Profit1 was $112.9 million SaaS Gross Profit was $75.6 million, representing a Gross Margin of 64.8% SaaS Adjusted Gross Profit1 was $78.2 million, representing an Adjusted Gross Margin of 67.0% Recent Business Highlights and Metrics Quality customers2 (defined as those contributing more than $400 in monthly recurring revenue) accounted for 70% of SaaS revenue2 in the first quarter of 2026 SaaS clients were 96 thousand at the end of the first quarter of 2026 Seasoned Net Revenue Retention3 was 93% for the first quarter of 2026 SaaS monthly Average Revenue per Unit ("ARPU")4 was $378 for the first quarter of 2026, an increase of 12.8% year-over-year Marketing Center revenue increased 29% year-over-year in the first quarter of 2026 "We delivered a strong start to 2026, with SaaS revenue exceeding our guidance and now representing 70% of total revenue," said Joe Walsh, Thryv Chairman and CEO. "Our upmarket motion is clearly working, as ARPU grew 13% year-over-year and Quality Customers now represent 70% of our SaaS revenue. We are expanding beyond our legacy client base, and are attracting larger small businesse...

TranscriptFY2026 Q12026-04-30

FY2026 Q1 earnings call transcript

Earnings source - 62 paragraphs
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Thryv First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. After today's prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand. If you have dialed into today's call, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. I will now hand the conference over to Cameron Lessard, Senior Vice President, Corporate Development and Strategy. Cameron, please go ahead.

Cameron Lessard

Good morning, thank you for joining us for Thryv Holdings' first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. With me today are Joe Walsh, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Paul Rouse, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's call may contain forward-looking statements, including statements about our business outlook and strategy, future financial results, growth prospects, and any other matters that are not historical facts. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and our actual results may differ materially. Please refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for a discussion of factors that could cause our results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. We do not undertake any obligation to update these statements. In addition, today's discussion will include references to non-GAAP financial measures.

Cameron Lessard

Please refer to the press release we issued this morning for a reconciliation of our non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures. The press release and accompanying investor presentation are available in the investor relations section of our website at investor.thryv.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh

Thank you, Cameron, and good morning, everyone. I will highlight our first quarter results and key trends and hand it over to Paul Rouse to walk you through the numbers, and then Cameron will take you through some of our forward guidance. We had a strong quarter. SaaS revenue of $117 million came in ahead of expectations, and marketing services outperformed as well, resulting in total company Adjusted EBITDA that beat our guidance. Quality customers now represent 70% of revenue, and annualized client spend has eclipsed $4,500. We are now a 70% SaaS revenue company. A few years ago, we were a marketing services business with software on the side. Today, that equation has fully flipped, and it happened because small businesses are telling us through their buying behavior that they need what we offer.

Joe Walsh

The clearest signal of that is Marketing Center, which grew around 30% year-over-year in Q1. Small businesses wanna get found online, drive high-quality leads, and convert those leads into lasting customer relationships. That's exactly what Marketing Center does. The growth reflects that fit. It is the centerpiece of our Market, Sell, and Grow strategy. Its continued momentum validates that strategy is working. We're also seeing strong results in our up-market motion, attracting and winning larger small businesses than we've historically served. These are clients with more complexity, more needs, and more to spend. That's showing up directly in our numbers. ARPU grew to $378 a month, up 13% year-over-year, with annualized client spend eclipsing $4,500, a direct result of serving higher caliber clients.

Joe Walsh

Because larger businesses engage more deeply and expand their spend over time and stay longer, the lifetime value of these clients is fundamentally better. You know, you'll remember we've talked about moving from 4,000 to 8,000 over the next, you know, kind of four or five years. We feel strongly that that up-market move is gaining traction at this point. Quality customer count grew 6% year-over-year and now represents 70% of SaaS revenue, up from 62% a year ago. That trajectory tells you the mix shift is working, and it's a dynamic we're leaning into deliberately. I also wanna touch on AI, because the early results are genuinely encouraging.

Joe Walsh

On prior earnings calls, we shared that we were rolling out a suite of AI-powered capabilities across the platform, and it's validating to come back this quarter and report that the engagement numbers are really strong. AI image generation, AI lead scoring, and our AI-guided dashboard are all seeing strong early adoption since rollout. AI review responses, our AI website builder, and AI caption round out the suite and are performing well too. These are not features that we are still testing. They're live now. They're being used by clients who are engaging with them. That matters because AI embedded in the daily workflow is what makes Thryv stickier and more valuable over time. We said we were building it. It's built, and it's working. In sum, the business is on solid footing.

Joe Walsh

Our core product is growing, our client base is consistently upgrading toward higher value relationships, and our AI rollout is exceeding early expectations. That's the story of Q1. Now I'd like to hand it over to Paul Rouse and Cameron to walk you through the numbers and update you on our guidance.

Paul Rouse

Thanks, Joe. Let's dive into the numbers. SaaS reported revenue was $116.7 million in the first quarter, representing an increase of 5% year-over-year and exceeding guidance. SaaS adjusted gross margin was 67%. SaaS Adjusted EBITDA was $10.8 million in the first quarter, resulting in an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 9%. Adjusted gross margin in the first quarter was diluted by the strategic upgrade of our low-margin large digital agency customers from our Marketing Services base of customers onto SaaS with no change in pricing. Historically, we lacked an upgrade path for these clients with Business Center, but Market, Sell, and Grow now provides the motion, with Keap marketing automations representing a significant upsell opportunity that will drive improved economics over time. This gross margin compression was the primary factor of Adjusted EBITDA coming in below guidance for the quarter.

Paul Rouse

We view it as a deliberate near-term investment in a previously under-leveraged segment of our customer base. In the first quarter, SaaS ARPU reached $378, an increase of 13% year-over-year. We ended the quarter with 96,000 SaaS subscribers. Seasoned NRR of 93% represents the natural attrition of smaller, lower-spend clients within our base. Importantly, churn among our high-value clients has been trending favorably, underscoring the effectiveness of our client experience initiatives and our confidence in long-term health of the business. Multi-product adoption continues to accelerate in the first quarter. Clients with two or more SaaS products grew to 26,000, or 30% of our base, compared to 24,000 or 25% a year ago. Moving over to Marketing Services, first quarter revenue was $50.9 million and above guidance.

Paul Rouse

First quarter Marketing Services Adjusted EBITDA was $13.2 million, resulting in an Adjusted EBITDA margin of 26%. As anticipated, this performance reflects the natural cadence of our print publication schedule, which is weighed towards the second half of the year from a revenue recognition standpoint. Importantly, this time dynamic has no impact on billings or free cash flow generation, as our book-over-book decline patterns have remained consistent and predictable over time. First quarter Marketing Services billings totaled $54.5 million, down 33% year-over-year, reflecting the intentional shift in our strategy as we continue to initiate upgrades of legacy digital Marketing Services products for clients to our SaaS platform. The decline will persist, but at a managed pace.

Paul Rouse

We remain on track to exit marketing services by 2028, with cash flows lasting through 2030, ensuring strong liquidity as we fully transform to a pure play software business. We ended the first quarter with net debt of $258 million, bringing our leverage ratio to 1.7x. I'll turn the call over to Cameron to walk through the guidance.

Cameron Lessard

Thanks, Paul. Let's dive into guidance. For the second quarter, we expect SaaS revenue in the range of $114-115 million. For the full year, we are raising the low end of our SaaS revenue to a range of $463-471 million. For the second quarter, we expect SaaS Adjusted EBITDA in a range of $12-13 million. For the full year, we are maintaining SaaS Adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $70-75 million. For the full year, we are raising our Marketing Services revenue to be in the range of $157-163 million. For the full year, we are maintaining Marketing Services Adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $30-35 million.

Cameron Lessard

One thing worth keeping in mind as you model the year, Q2 carries a lighter print publication schedule relative to other quarters, which will create some timing variation in EBITDA due to the cadence of revenue recognition. This has no impact on billings or free cash flow, and as print volume ramps in the back half of the year, Marketing Services EBITDA will reflect that accordingly. The quarterly phasing is outlined in the investor presentation, and the full year range is unchanged. Before we close, I just want to step back for a second. This transformation is working. SaaS is now 70% of our revenue, something that felt like a distant goal not long ago. As we look toward 2027, we expect to return to overall top-line growth. For those of you who've been watching this story and waiting for the other side, we're nearly there.

Cameron Lessard

The business is at a genuine inflection point. We're no longer managing around decline. We're leaning into growth, advancing our AI initiatives, and building something we're really proud of. We appreciate your continued support and your belief in what we're building. We look forward to updating you next quarter. Thank you. Operator, let's move to questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please raise your hand now. If you have dialed into today's call, please press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Scott Berg with Needham & Company. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Scott Berg

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions here. Joe, I guess first question is talking about your move-up market that you seem, on the SaaS side at least, that you seem to be, you know, continually more positive on. Any anecdotal evidence on, you know, how many more modules those customers are taking or how much larger the ARPU of your larger kinda customer segment is? I think that would be helpful if you have any details there. Thank you.

Joe Walsh

Sure. Thanks, Scott, for the question. We are moving upmarket. You know, our overarching plan here is to, you know, move our ARPU from $4,000-$8,000, and we're, you know, making steady progress, 13% ARPU growth in the most recent period. As with everything with us, our metrics don't move in a perfect straight line because there's a lot of noise as we continue to transition the old business away. We're having a lot of success, you know, moving upmarket, and we're doing it in a few ways. Firstly, and maybe most importantly, you know, we've put very sophisticated sales automation in place over the last few years, and we're targeting all of our sales efforts at larger businesses. We literally have a list of who we want you to go talk to.

Joe Walsh

You know, what that means is that rather than selling the solopreneur who maybe has $300,000 or $400,000 of annual revenue, we're selling a mid-sized business that has $1 million of revenue and, you know, 12 employees or something. It makes a big difference for us in terms of retention, their willingness and ability to pay, and their ability to buy more from us over time. That is actually the big story here is if you look at quality customers, and I know that there's noise in our gross number of customers, and that's because we're transitioning legacy customers and legacy systems as we wind down this gigantic marketing services business. It's bringing over some subscale customers.

Joe Walsh

Sometimes we're able to get those customers moving and engage with software and buying more and heading in the right direction, and sometimes they churn out. Those, you know, that process is a little bit noisy, which is why gross numbers haven't been a perfect measure. If you look at quality customers, it's steadily growing, and ARPU is pretty steadily growing. Again, it bounces around a little bit, but the overall direction is up. As far as, you know, your question about modules, you know, we're, you know, increasingly having more and more success with people buying, you know, multiple products from us and becoming stickier. You see that number, you know, moving up.

Joe Walsh

These bigger businesses a lot of times are coming in bigger to begin with. If you look at our, you know, new sales velocity, they tend to be bigger. You got your finger on the story. It's us moving away from solopreneurs, moving to bigger businesses and all the noise that creates, Scott.

Scott Berg

Understood. Thanks. Joe, you talked about the engagement story and some of your AI functionality is improving. I think we're all looking for evidence amongst different enterprise software vendors and how customers are leveraging these technologies, you know, through these vendors out there today. As you have more experience or your customers have more experience with this functionality, how should we think about the monetization efforts of these going forward? Are you able to monetize any of this functionality separately, or do you think this is really something that you embed into the core product and, you know, we realize, you know, some of those financial benefits through just the core pricing, maybe improvements over time?

Joe Walsh

It, it's a terrific question. The way you finished is, I think, the way we start, and that's that we are, you know, massively enhancing the product, by putting AI features, by clustering agents around what we're doing so that we can deliver better results. We can dial in people's campaigns. There's definitely a data moat that builds over time because you get smarter and smarter with their data, with their campaigns, and there's a switching cost if someone were to ever leave that. I think it helps, really helps our retention. It helps us deliver, you know, a better, you know, a better experience for the customer.

Joe Walsh

Things, some things that were harder to do or that they needed to spend time on the software to do can just happen without them even logging in as you move along here. I think all of these make the software more attractive, easier to use, will improve retention and improve our ability to get price without having discrete pricing. Now, having said that, when I look at our roadmap of what we're building and what we're doing, I do think that there will be significant monetization opportunities down the road, but we are not going for that at the moment. We're just going for making the product easier to use and more powerful, so that we have stronger retention.

Scott Berg

Understood. Thank you for taking my questions.

Joe Walsh

Thanks, Scott.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Linda Leon

Awesome. Thank you. This is Linda Leon for Arjun. Thanks for taking my questions. Joe, what are the early customer feedbacks from customers on the new AI products, and how are you seeing that in early conversations with prospective customers as well?

Joe Walsh

I mentioned some of them on the call. Things like, image generation and, you know, review response. Those have been in for a while, and it's just steadily building. People are discovering that when they go to do their social posts, it's just easier to use these tools and so on. That's been a steady melt up now for a while and going very well. I think some of the stuff that we're coming out with now is really exciting.

Joe Walsh

We're taking a lot of the Keap functionality, melding everything together. We're able now to, you know, take a lead, give you a transcript of the lead, grade the lead one through five based initially on a set of assumptions we make based on the words in the lead, but over time, on your own data, dial that in for you. And those people that are using this, you know, these tools are experiencing quite a bit stronger conversion of leads. No leads are falling through the cracks. We've got particularly some of our partners have been taking the lead on that as we've been initially rolling this stuff out in beta, and now it's out, you know, kind of teaching us what's possible with it. We're pretty excited about this.

Joe Walsh

We think it's gonna be, make our software easier to use. The dream scenario is that this software helps you efficiently grow a local business without having to log in all the time, that it's working in the background for you, and that's the big deal. It's always hard to get the roofer off the roof, you know, to get the chiropractor to let go of the patient and go in there and mess with the software. When the tools do it for them, it makes a big difference. That's really. It's moving it closer to them and making it easier for them to get value.

Linda Leon

Yeah, that's helpful. Last quarter you talked about the initiative of Market, Sell, and Grow. Can you just give us a little bit more of update of how that's initiative and strategy has been going? I know there's a lot of integration in terms of the Keap automation inside of the Market, Sell, and Grow initiative. Can you just give a little bit more color from last quarter?

Joe Walsh

Yeah. We also, in the last quarter, mentioned the new platform that we're developing. At the moment, we have Keap and Marketing Center. We have a method that we're able to deliver the value of both. It's sort of a I hesitate to say bundle, but it's sort of almost like a bundle where we're using them together. That's sort of that Market, Sell, and Grow footprint of things that we're doing. The new platform just puts it all together. It's not a bundle, it's not separate. Everything is together and unified, and it's all AI from, you know, written from the ground up. We basically have rewritten the whole thing. It's been a lot of work to do, it's incredible.

Joe Walsh

It's in the hands of some customers right now, and we're dialing in everything. Yeah, Market, Sell, and Grow really is, it's our super fast-growing main thrust, which is Marketing Center, which is about efficient growth for local, kind of bigger small businesses. With Keap, you have, you know, what are essentially automations or agentic assistants that help them through the process of responding to leads if they're busy and they don't follow up right away. It continues to nurture them. After a sale is made, it continues to keep that customer warm and stay in touch and create a connection so that the next time they have a need, you get them back.

Joe Walsh

These are the kinds of things that really genuinely help a small business. These are the tools that they're looking for. That's what Market, Sell, and Grow is all about.

Linda Leon

Awesome. Thank you.

Joe Walsh

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Swanson with RBC. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Matthew Swanson

No, fantastic. Maybe following up on the question that was just asked, Marketing Center being up 30% is awesome, and it clearly shows the success you guys are having with this new go-to-market. Last quarter, I think, Joe, you had mentioned there was some potential for cannibalization, just kinda as you shift the focus. Can you just give us kind of an update on that, I guess, and just how that 30% growth in Marketing Center will kind of increasingly be reflected in your overall growth rates as maybe some of these other headwinds get offset?

Joe Walsh

Yeah, I mean, I think over time, that is the company, you know. We're replacing the current Marketing Center platform with a new one very soon, and the new one has Keap fully integrated in it. It is written, you know, from the ground up, with agentic tools everywhere, and an MCP layer on it. I mean, it's very, very cool. Yeah. Our, you know, our sales organization and our customer base see the power and results of Marketing Center, and that's the center of gravity for the company. Everything is moving in that direction. You know, the sales reps are not as much running around out there trying to sell standalone, you know, Keap or standalone Business Center. Everything is driving toward this Market, Sell, and Grow platform.

Joe Walsh

Everything is driving toward Marketing Center, particularly the new one. Your read on it is right, and everything is driving up market. If you think about our business, if I were looking at it from the outside, I would look at the quality customer progress and the way that's moving up, and I would look at Marketing Center as really the company and look at those, and I'd put my projections and my ruler on the progress there. You know, we're not going to be building, you know, Keap out in the future as a separate thing. We're bringing the powerful, unbelievably good functionality it has inside of the main Thryv offering. And you know, similarly, we really are not adding a lot of new business centers.

Joe Walsh

A sales rep when presented with the choice of selling a Business Center or a Marketing Center, you know, you know, Rapid development, a lot of the heat and light are on Marketing Center. That's really what they're selling. I think you got it. I'm reading in the way you asked the question that you have it figured out.

Matthew Swanson

All right. Well, that's good to hear. Another. The quality SaaS client bar chart in the deck, I think it's also telling a pretty compelling story. Could you just give us some context from, like, a product standpoint of what that $400 threshold looks like, if that makes sense? Just kind of like what is a customer spending $400, what does that mean from a product standpoint?

Joe Walsh

Yeah. We've got, you know, a bunch of extensions or add-ons that are beginning to sell really well. You will know, you know, we control a pretty big part of the kind of marketing universe. For small businesses, there's a battle for, you know, for them out there. When they look at getting customers, there are two giant trolls standing between them and their customer, Google and Facebook. Those leads are super expensive. I mean, they're very efficient at monetizing those leads. When you talk with particularly service-type businesses, they're like, "Is there some way I can get leads around Google or around Facebook, like not have to go to them?" Think about all the directories we control around the world, in Australia, New Zealand, and the U.S.

Joe Walsh

We control these big directory sites, and then we've built a network of other directory-type sites, whether it's Nextdoor and Yelp and Citysearch and, you know, all these other site, and we have that all networked together. We have a pretty significant amount of non-Google traffic that we're able to source, and we've packaged these really cool kind of growth packages together that we're able to sell to customers. In an age of AI answer engines, they're having, you know, renewed buoyancy because the AI answer engine doesn't look it up in Google and then give it to you. It goes out and searches the stuff itself directly.

Joe Walsh

When you look at a yp.com, you know, fence contractor in Tupelo, Mississippi, that's been on our site for 17 years, they look at that as solid, authoritative content that answers the query that you put in, it delivers that answer, it's pretty cool. Anyway, back to your question. We, we've got add-ons where we're drawing from who we've been in the past and pulling all that together, that's working great because not only are we helping you measure your marketing, but we're helping you do some of it, too.

Matthew Swanson

Thank you.

Joe Walsh

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Kreyer with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Jason Kreyer

Thank you, guys. Joe, can you just maybe step back and talk about the sales motion and the difference between the upmarket clients and those at the low end? Then how do you position the sales team to be in the right place to capitalize on the upsell opportunity?

Joe Walsh

Yeah, great question. Look. We, Job one for us is to wind down the old directory business. Every morning we get up, that's the first thing we gotta do because we've got, you know, this big business, and it's got, you know, some legacy technology and legacy processes and systems, and we're winding that business down. In so doing, we're variabilizing and collapsing that legacy cost structure down, and we're good at this. We do it every day. To do it, a lot of times we got customers that are sitting out there on legacy platforms or legacy tools that we need to, you know, to move off of those in order to shut them down and turn them off. The upgrade over to our modern stack is phenomenal for them, but there's communication involved.

Joe Walsh

There's a lot we have to do. That eats up some of our time, and it does bring over some sub-scale customers. There's some customers over there that are just solopreneurs or, you know, very small businesses that may not be our perfect ICP. That's why you see noise in the gross client number because we've brought over some unnatural SaaS customers, and some of them we were able to talk to them and get them moving, and they buy more stuff, and they say, "Hey, this stuff's really cool," and they become a good source. Others are like, "Nah, really is not for me. I was trying to buy listings in a phone book or something." That takes some of our time.

Joe Walsh

When we go outside and start prospecting, we, both through our marketing and through our excellent sales force, we're deploying them against a targeted list of our ideal clients. You know, to think about it this way, the HVAC company that has four or five trucks on the road would be our target versus, you know, the guy who, you know, his wife runs the office, and he does it, and his brother-in-law helps him in the summer. You know, the total company's got, like, $400,000 of revenue. That's not our target. We're not really going and looking for that guy.

Joe Walsh

We're putting our sales energy against selling the bigger ones that maybe have $1 million of revenue or $1.2 million or $1.3 million of revenue because they tend to be much stickier, and they tend to have a willingness to pay and an ability to buy more stuff over time. I would say if, Jason, if I'm really honest, in this journey, you know, if you could go back and, you know, maybe change things or whatever, when we first started our software business, we pretty much would sell anybody who would talk to us, and that gave us a lot of experience. Because when we studied our customer base, we found that the very, very smallest ones were churnier, and the bigger ones were steadier. That's just a better way to build our business.

Joe Walsh

Now we've spent a lot of time developing Marketing Center for those larger guys, for those bigger businesses. We've, you know, we brought in Sean Wechter from Boomi, and we've become really good at integrating with other software tools. You know, if you're on, you know, ServiceTitan or you're on, you know, I don't know, some other, you know, big CRM tool and you need your marketing cared for, you know, we are interconnecting and working well with those tools. That was maybe more than you wanted, but gives you some sense of where we're spending our time and how we're focusing.

Jason Kreyer

Yeah, no, that's good. Thank you. I do have a follow-up. Maybe this is for Paul, but just trying to get a sense of the trajectory on both the customer count and the dollar retention figures. Just, you know, if you have any insights into are we stabilizing now, when those things can start to peak up in the next few quarters?

Joe Walsh

I'll tell you what, I'm gonna share this answer with Cameron. Cameron's my data expert, so I'm gonna get him involved here. Look, I, we sort of guided you guys directionally that we would probably be about, you know, flattish to maybe down slightly for the year as some of the conversions that we made over the last year or so stick, and some didn't. Now the sales that we're making, each sale that we're replacing them with are much larger. In some cases two leave, and then one new coming in is as big as the two that left. There's a little bit of just qualitation going on, if you will. Let me let Cameron assist with the answer a little bit. Cam?

Cameron Lessard

That's right, Joe. Jason, what you're seeing in the overall customer count is that effect. You're adding larger customers and losing the sub-scale customers. I think we expect that to stay flat, starting from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. On the seasoned NRR metric, that'll probably stay around the same range as well. You are losing some sub-scale customers and that'll weigh on that. I think if you step back and look at what we've done over the past 12 months, our overall churn has trended in the right direction on the overall customer base, and that'll be reflected in the seasoned base over time.

Cameron Lessard

Our quality customers, you know, roughly 70% of the revenue, they have excellent retention as of right now, so that'll start to trend NRR in the right direction as you move out. We wanna make sure that we keep those quality customers having the best client experience and making sure that retention stays strong. Overall, I think you won't see a lot of big changes in those metrics throughout the year, so I would just forecast relative flatness.

Jason Kreyer

Got it. Thank you, guys.

Joe Walsh

Thanks, Jason.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-29

Earnings To Watch: Thryv Holdings Inc (THRY) Reports Q1 2026 Result

GuruFocus.com

This article first appeared on GuruFocus. Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) is set to release its Q1 2026 earnings on Apr 30, 2026. The consensus estimate for Q1 2026 revenue is $161.66 million, and the earnings are expected to come in at -$0.03 per share. The full year 2026's revenue is expected to be $619.12 million and the earnings are expected to be $0.21 per share. More detailed estimate data can be found on the Forecast page. Warning! GuruFocus has detected 5 Warning Signs with THRY. Is THRY fairly valued? Test your thesis with our free DCF calculator. Over the past 90 days, revenue estimates for Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) have declined from $656.54 million to $619.12 million for the full year 2026 and from $590.04 million to $565.32 million for 2027. Earnings estimates have also decreased, dropping from $0.31 per share to $0.21 per share for the full year 2026 and from $0.77 per share to $0.35 per share for 2027. In the previous quarter ending 2025-12-31, Thryv Holdings Inc's (NASDAQ:THRY) actual revenue was $191.62 million, which missed analysts' revenue expectations of $193.14 million by -0.79%. Thryv Holdings Inc's (NASDAQ:THRY) actual earnings were -$0.22 per share, which missed analysts' earnings expectations of $0.18 per share by -225%. After releasing the results, Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) was down by -46.43% in one day. Based on the one-year price targets offered by 3 analysts, the average target price for Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) is $4.67 with a high estimate of $6.00 and a low estimate of $4.00. The average target implies an upside of 20.90% from the current price of $3.86. Based on GuruFocus estimates, the estimated GF Value for Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) in one year is $9.49, suggesting an upside of 145.85% from the current price of $3.86. Based on the consensus recommendation from 4 brokerage firms, Thryv Holdings Inc's (NASDAQ:THRY) average brokerage recommendation is currently 2.8, indicating a "Hold" status. The rating scale ranges from 1 to 5, where 1 signifies strong buy, and 5 denotes sell.

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-23

Thryv (THRY) Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Motley Fool

Image source: The Motley Fool. Feb. 27, 2025 at 8:30 a.m. ET Chairman & Chief Executive Officer — Joe Walsh Chief Financial Officer — Paul Rouse Chief Strategy Officer — Cameron (surname not specified in transcript) This quarter marks our first time reporting SaaS results inclusive of Keap software following our acquisition on October 31, 2024. With only two months of Keap's revenue reflected, we are focused on executing our integration plan and realizing the synergies we outlined at Analyst Day. To note, for 2025, total SaaS revenue will reflect the combined performance of Thryv and Keap. We will only specify Thryv SaaS when isolating Thryv's performance. This reporting approach aligns with our long-term vision of a unified SaaS-platform ensures investors have full visibility into our growth trajectory. For deeper insight into our future strategy, we encourage investors to review our December 3 Analyst Day materials. The presentation details our road map, including the planned exit for marketing services in 2028, Keap's role in accelerating SaaS adoption, expected synergies with the acquisition, product innovation and our updated medium-term outlook. With that, I'll turn the call over to Joe Walsh, Chairman and CEO. Joe? Joe Walsh: Thank you, Cameron, and good morning, everyone. On today's call, I will highlight our fourth quarter results, key trends as well as progress in our SaaS transformation. I will provide an update on our recent Keap acquisition, and then our CFO, Paul Rouse, will take you through some of the financial numbers. Thryv finished the year with strong momentum, beating the top and bottom line guidance for our SaaS business. For the quarter, total SaaS reported year-over-year revenue growth was 41% and normalizing for the effect of the Keap acquisition, Thryv SaaS revenue growth was 23%. For the full year 2024, Thryv SaaS year-over-year revenue growth was 25%. Total SaaS revenue is now officially well over 50%, a milestone for our transformative business. Subscribers in our Thryv SaaS business grew 50% year-over-year to 99,000. Including Keap in the subscriber base takes us to 114,000. SaaS adjusted gross margin increased to 76% for the fourth quarter. Our quarterly SaaS EBITDA of $17 million beat guidance by over $5 million, continuing to demonstrate our focus on building a profitable, growing SaaS software company. SaaS obtained Rule of...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-23

Thryv (THRY) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Motley Fool

Image source: The Motley Fool. Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 8:30 a.m. ET Chief Executive Officer — Joe Walsh Chief Financial Officer — Paul Rouse Joe Walsh: Welcome to Thryv's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. I'm joined today by our CFO, Paul Rouse. Together, we'll present our third quarter results. 10 years ago, our management team was brought in by the Dex Media Board to do a turnaround. The plan was to take the rapidly declining regional directory publisher was declining about $400 million a year at that point and transform it into a market-leading global software company. Each year since we've made steady progress toward that goal. Our superpower, as I've called it, has been hunting in the zoo, converting directory customers and marketing services customers to our modern SaaS software platform, first with CRM run your business tools with solid success. And recently, we've added grow your business functions. Our success with growth elements has sped up our marketing services conversion. The small miss we had in marketing services this quarter was actually a good guy. We cannibalized ourselves. These customers are now on our modern SaaS platform, poised to grow with us into the future. We've guided that we will be a 100% NDR company. These customers expand their spend. In fact, we see 10% to 15% growth in the ensuing year after this conversion. As a multiproduct company, we now see many paths to grow customers once they land on one of our centers. Approximately 12% of our customers are now multicenter. This is a key lever to watch in the future. At $350 million in ARR now, our SaaS business is beginning to show 72% gross margins, 12% adjusted EBITDA margin, 29% growth. This Rule of 40 performance was achieved by hunting in the zoo, converting marketing services customers to SaaS. We've shown we can upsell these accounts. We get referrals from our engaged SaaS clients. While it's in the early stages, our product-led growth strategy is beginning to help us meet new customers. And we gained new customers through acquisitions like the -- Keap acquisition we made last week, which added over 15,000 quality customers. I'll talk more about -- Keap after Paul covers our financial results. Paul? Paul Rouse: Let's dive into our results, beginning with SaaS. SaaS revenue was $87.1 million in the third quarter and above guidance, representing an increase of 29% year-...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-04-09

Thryv to Release First Quarter 2026 Financial Results on Thursday, April 30

Business Wire

DALLAS, April 09, 2026--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Thryv® Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ:THRY) ("Thryv'' or the "Company"), provider of the leading small business marketing and sales software platform, announced today that it will release its first quarter 2026 financial results on Thursday, April 30, before the market opens. The release will be followed by a conference call at 8:30 a.m. ET to discuss the results with the investment community. To listen to this conference call, please use this link or visit Thryv’s Investor Relations website at investor.thryv.com. A confirmation email with access details will be sent after registering. We recommend registering a day in advance or at minimum thirty minutes prior to the start of the call. A live webcast will also be available on the Investor Relations section of the Company’s website at investor.thryv.com. Downloadable files of the press release and an audio replay of the call will be available on the Company’s website after the live event. ABOUT THRYV Thryv (NASDAQ: THRY) is an AI-enabled global marketing platform that helps small businesses (SMBs) get found online faster, win more customers, and drive repeat business. Thryv software offers SMBs AI-driven lead insights, automated customer follow‑up and payment processing, an AI-enabled CRM and a suite of additional solutions. Thryv is making growth‑focused AI tools accessible to the plumber, salon owner, contractor, lawyer, accountant and more. Over 200K+ businesses globally use Thryv to market, sell, and grow. For more information www.thryv.com. View source version on businesswire.com: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20260409519612/en/ Contacts Media Contact: Julie Murphy Thryv, Inc. 617.967.5426 [email protected] Investor Contact: Cameron Lessard Thryv, Inc. [email protected]

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-02-27

Thryv Holdings Inc (THRY) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Highlights: Strong SaaS Growth and Strategic AI ...

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This article first appeared on GuruFocus. SaaS Revenue: Increased 14.1% to $119 million in Q4; $461 million for the full year, up 34.2% year over year. SaaS Adjusted Gross Margin: 70.4% in Q4; 72.7% for the full year, up 70 basis points year over year. SaaS Adjusted EBITDA: $20 million in Q4 with a margin of 16.8%; $73.8 million for the full year with a margin of 16%. SaaS Subscribers: 100,000 at the end of Q4. SaaS ARPU: $373, a 15% increase year over year. Quality Customers: Growth of 18% year over year, now representing more than 20% of the client base. Marketing Services Revenue: $72.6 million in Q4; $324 million for the full year. Marketing Services Adjusted EBITDA: $18.8 million in Q4 with a margin of 25.9%; $78 million for the full year with a margin of 24.1%. Free Cash Flow: $31.1 million in 2025, expected to grow to $40 million-$50 million in 2026. Net Debt: Reduced by $15 million to $251 million, with a leverage ratio of 1.7 times. 2026 Outlook: SaaS revenue expected to be $461 million-$471 million; SaaS adjusted EBITDA expected to be $70 million-$75 million. Warning! GuruFocus has detected 4 Warning Signs with THRY. Is THRY fairly valued? Test your thesis with our free DCF calculator. Release Date: February 26, 2026 For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript. SaaS revenues grew 34% year over year, with a strong adjusted EBITDA margin of 16.8%. Thryv Holdings Inc (NASDAQ:THRY) is advancing on the AI front, enhancing its product roadmap and positioning itself as a leading SaaS platform for small businesses. The Marketing Center product is the fastest-growing offering, with revenue more than doubling in 2025 and growing over 50% year over year. The acquisition of Keep has accelerated Thryv's roadmap by multiple years, integrating valuable platform capabilities and engineering talent. The Thryv platform, set to launch later in 2026, represents a shift to a unified growth platform for small businesses, integrating marketing, sales, and growth functionalities. The transition from legacy print and marketing services to a SaaS model has reached a point where the upgrade pool is largely behind, potentially moderating near-term growth rates. There is a legacy tail of smaller customers spending under $200 a month, which creates noise in overall metrics and does not align with the current platform value...

Investor releaseQuarter not tagged2026-02-27

Thryv (THRY) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Motley Fool

Image source: The Motley Fool. Feb. 26, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. ET Chief Executive Officer — Joe Walsh Chief Technology Officer — Sean Wechter Chief Financial Officer — Paul Rouse Joe Walsh: Thank you, Cameron. Good morning, everyone. 2025 was a solid year. Our team accomplished a lot. SaaS revenues grew 34% year-over-year. SaaS adjusted EBITDA margin was strong at 16.8%. We are accelerating on the AI front. It is advancing our product roadmap. We are well-positioned as a leading SaaS platform for small businesses. I want to spend my time today clearly framing the future of Thryv Holdings, Inc. I want to be direct about what we are building, because the results you see for the quarter and our guidance for the year only make sense when viewed through that strategic lens. Over the past several years, we have communicated our transition from legacy print and marketing services into a leading SaaS company. This has been a successful transition that is well underway. What we have not shared yet is our next phase, not just evolving into a leading SaaS company, but becoming the platform of choice for small businesses who need to market, get found and chosen, who need to sell with automated follow-ups and capture every lead, and who need to grow by reaching more customers than ever before. Let me explain why this is important and what we have been building toward. Our Marketing Center is our fastest-growing product, a differentiated and valuable offering in the market that is growing north of 50% year over year. In fact, in 2025, it more than doubled in revenue. If you look at our old paradigm of centers, it would be our largest center. We recognized a gap. We were very good at helping businesses get found online and attract customers, but we needed to be equally strong at helping them convert those leads into sales, turn those customers into repeat buyers, and scale the entire cycle. Small businesses simply do not need more leads. They need to drive more revenue. That requires mastering the full journey, get found, land the sale, deliver great service, earn repeat business, and do it again and again. A network effect with increasing efficiency. That is precisely why the Keap acquisition was so strategic for us. We acquired years of development time and product sophistication that would have been nearly impossible for us to replicate internally. The value is not in Keap's...

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