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Good day, and welcome to the Dynex Capital Incorporated first quarter earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Ms. Alison Griffin, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. The press release associated with today's call was issued and filed with the SEC this morning, April 20th, 2026. You may view the press release on the homepage of the Dynex website at dynexcapital.com, as well as on the SEC's website at sec.gov. Before we begin, we wish to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The words believe, expect, forecast, anticipate, estimate, project, plan, and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements that are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. The company's actual results and timing of certain events could differ considerably from those projected and/or contemplated by those forward-looking statements as a result of unforeseen external factors or risks.

For additional information on these factors or risks, please refer to our disclosures filed with the SEC, which may be found on the Dynex website under Investor, as well as on the SEC's website. This conference call is being broadcast live over the internet with a streaming slide presentation, which can be found through the webcast link on the website. The slide presentation may also be referenced on the Investors page. Joining me on the call today are Smriti Popenoe, Co-Chief Executive Officer and President, Byron Boston, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Mike Sartori, Chief Financial Officer, and T.J. Connelly, Chief Investment Officer. I now have the pleasure to turn the call over to Smriti.

Thank you, Alison, and good morning, everyone. We continue to build our company at the intersection of two powerful demographic tailwinds, the need for income and the need for housing. Dynex continues to deliver differentiated top-tier performance. Our track record, now combined with the significant growth in our capital base over the last 15 months, propels value creation by delivering scale and resilience to our shareholders. The team is focused on methodically building durability across investments, finance, technology, risk, and operations. Growing an enduring platform reinforces the value of our business meaningfully beyond the valuation of our balance sheet, further driving long-term shareholder returns. Turning now to the global macroeconomic environment, government policy is squarely in the driver's seat, defining and driving outcomes. Scenario planning for us has evolved to mapping policy pathways.

What policymakers could do next, how markets may transmit those decisions, and how we position ourselves for those moves. More than ever, mindset and preparedness are the key factors for successful decision-making because the policy paths aren't always foreseeable. Flexibility and openness in our team's mindset, something we actively teach and practice, are now essential parts of navigating the investment landscape. In the first quarter, we added value by executing our plan. We managed the portfolio through a short burst of volatility, which we used to opportunistically raise and deploy capital. We grew the total capital base by 18%, deploying the funds during the quarter as MBS spreads widened. Since quarter end, MBS spreads have tightened and book value is higher. Mike and T.J. will now review the detailed quarterly results and our outlook.

Thank you. Good morning everyone joining us today. I'd like to begin by welcoming [Kaitlyn Mauritz], who joins Dynex today to lead Capital Markets and Investor Relations. [Kait] brings deep industry experience across both functions, and her background will support the continued growth of our capital and investor base while deepening the engagement with our existing investors. We are excited to add her capabilities to our strong and growing Dynex team. Turning now to our financial results for the quarter. Book value ended the quarter at $12.60 per share, and economic return was -2.5% for the quarter, consisting of $0.51 per share of common dividends and an $0.85 per share decrease in book value. We ended the quarter with leverage of 8.6x versus total equity.

The majority of the increase was attributable to the growth in our investment portfolio of $6 billion, reflecting the deployment of capital raised during the quarter of $442 million. Our liquidity position remained very strong, with $1.3 billion in cash and unencumbered securities at the end of the quarter, representing over 46% of total equity. We continue to evaluate growth through the lens of market opportunity, investment returns, and long-term accretion to drive shareholder value. Net interest income for the quarter rose from $0.28 per share to $0.40 per share, primarily due to declining financing costs, which fell 33 basis points due to the impact of the Federal Reserve's rate cuts in the fourth quarter. With respect to expenses, G&A increased quarter-over-quarter, driven primarily by one-time items.

As we noted in the prior first quarter earnings, we expect overall expenses to normalize in the second quarter with full-year expense ratio anticipated to be flat or modestly lower versus year-end as we grow our capital base. Importantly, we remain disciplined in managing costs and our expense structure. With that, I'll turn it over to T.J. to provide additional detail on portfolio strategy and the outlook.

Thanks, Mike. We entered the quarter with policy attention focused squarely on housing affordability and the mortgage market. As the quarter progressed, global events, most notably the war in Iran, shifted market focus toward geopolitics and drove a sharp increase in volatility. As markets become more accustomed to that global backdrop, we expect both investors and policymakers to refocus on domestic priorities over the balance of the year, particularly housing and the availability of mortgage credit, a transition we believe could support tighter mortgage spreads over time. Early in the quarter, mortgage markets benefited from a strong technical tailwind. Government policy, long one of our most important inputs, had turned supportive, with policymakers emphasizing GSE mortgage buying to tighten spreads and improve affordability. As volatility rose later in the quarter, agency mortgages traded like much riskier assets, creating potential opportunities.

Because we operate with strong liquidity, we navigated that volatility constructively and selectively added assets as spreads widened to more attractive levels. Fundamentals and technicals remain highly supportive, and we believe the long-term path toward tighter equilibrium spreads remains highly likely, boosted by policy, supply-demand dynamics, and yield carry. Net supply is light, and demand remains broad and robust across banks, REITs, money managers, and foreign investors. Last quarter, I noted that we expected net supply to be $200 billion this year. So far in 2026, it appears supply could come in even lower. Returning to the demand side, the potential bid from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac retained portfolios improves downside liquidity, stabilizes spreads during periods of volatility, and supports broader investor participation. The GSEs have been actively buying mortgages. They are selective on valuation.

They regularly retain pools they had previously been selling through their cash window programs. There was some question about potential hedging. They are mostly hedging using interest rate swaps. In parallel, proposed changes tied to the Basel III Endgame could lower the capital cost banks face to hold mortgages, both in loan and securitized form, and to intermediate financing more efficiently. Financing costs are declining amid the light regulatory regime. Repo markets functioned smoothly, spreads were stable, and funding was readily available even during periods of heightened volatility. MBS repo spreads to SOFR remained in the 13 basis points-17 basis point range, 3 basis points-5 basis points below last year's averages. Structural improvements in the short-term funding markets, alongside elevated money market balances, standing Fed backstops, and more efficient balance sheet intermediation, continue to support financing for high-quality mortgage assets like those Dynex owns.

We've seen agency MBS spreads to seven-year interest rate swaps begin to trend tighter again. After moving from the high 120 basis points to nearly 170 basis points in March, spreads were in the low 160 basis points at quarter end and moved back toward the 150 basis points area late last week. As geopolitical events evolve and policymakers refocus on domestic issues like housing, we believe spreads can trade towards 120 basis points again, with scope for long-term equilibrium spreads closer to 100 basis points. Static ROEs for current coupon mortgages hedged with interest rate swaps were in the mid- to high teens, and the spread outlook I just outlined provides a further tailwind to forward returns. Moreover, the opportunity to add alpha through security selection is exceptional given the environment. Borrower prepayment behavior is increasingly heterogeneous and technology-driven, creating meaningful dispersion across pools.

Over the last year, we have strategically reduced our exposure to the most callable Agency MBS, those in what we call the TBA market, and we continued to do that in the first quarter. TBAs declined from over 16% of our portfolio at year-end to approximately 7% at the end of the quarter. The first quarter reflects the strength of the Dynex model along two dimensions. First, disciplined risk management, supported by significant financing liquidity, strategic security selection, and a focus on market structure in the context of the macro headlines allowed us to manage through elevated volatility. Second, that same volatility created the opportunity to raise and deploy capital at more attractive valuations, which we acted on during the quarter.

Thank you, T.J. We are now combining our demonstrated ability to earn solid returns with the benefits of scale. Growing our company in this attractive investment environment is an important element of value creation. It distributes fixed costs, deepens liquidity, and strengthens the company, especially in periods of volatility, like we saw last quarter. Beyond the resilience that a bigger balance sheet provides, larger companies have also typically enjoyed higher, more stable valuations. We have grown rapidly to be the third-largest agency-focused mortgage REIT, and we believe the market has not yet fully recognized the value we are establishing through scale.

As we continue to execute our plan with discipline, we are excited about the potential for shareholders to benefit from a more scalable platform, creating meaningful upside over the medium and long term. As we look ahead, we remain centered on opportunistic capital growth alongside disciplined management of our existing portfolio and building operating resilience. Our management team is invested alongside shareholders, our interests are aligned with yours, and we are committed to stewarding your capital with integrity, transparency, and care. I will now open the call to questions.

Thank you. If you are dialed in via the telephone and would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal through to our equipment. If you are in the event via the web interface and would like to ask a question, simply type your question in the Ask a Question box and click Send. Once again, press star one to ask a question. We'll go first to Bose George with KBW.

Hey, everyone. Good morning. Can we get an update on book value quarter to date?

Yeah. Hi, Bose. Good morning. As of Friday's close, the estimated book value was $13.31 per share, net of the accrued common dividend, and that's up 5.6% versus quarter end.

Oh, perfect. Great. Thank you. You gave your outlook for spreads potentially going back down to 120 basis points. Is that across the curve or on a specific point on the curve?

Yeah, I'm quoting those spreads, Bose, against the seven-year swap point, which is consistent with the chart we have in our presentation there.

Okay, great. Thanks a lot.

We'll take our next question from Trevor Cranston with Citizens JMP.

Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Morning.

Follow up on your commentary about spreads potentially tightening to 120 basis points or even 100 basis points as a long-term equilibrium. Can you talk about your thoughts on how high you'd be willing to take leverage given that kind of outlook for tightening? How much the potential for sort of short-term bouts of volatility sort of weigh against that? Thanks.

Right. Yeah. Thank you. There are several components to thinking about our leverage. Our leverage, as Mike mentioned, did increase it to 8.6x. Roughly 2/3 of that increase was actively positioning to own more mortgages given that backdrop. Mortgages really were kind of the tail of the dog for several weeks in March. The yield spread or mortgage basis, as we refer to it, traded with risky assets. The basis was very correlated to things like the S&P 500. We're doing a lot of scenario analysis around that to think about just how much leverage we can comfortably manage, and it was a very comfortable position for us coming into the quarter end period. Looking ahead, I think we're going to remain very opportunistic. We're very resolute in our view on those spreads moving from down to as much as 100 basis points.

Given the GSE backdrop, we think we are on the verge of a significant regime change. We are going to actively be opportunistic in keeping our exposures so investors can capitalize on this opportunity.

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Just looking at the portfolio this quarter, it looked like the allocation to TBAs went down some. Can you talk about how you're thinking about the values of spec pools versus TBAs with incremental dollars? Thanks.

Yeah. The TBA market by definition, for those who don't know, the TBA is to be announced market. That is the cheapest to deliver segment of the mortgage market. That is to say, the pools that are or the loans that are most callable and potentially have the most duration uncertainty typically will get delivered into a TBA transaction. We want to avoid those. We think those get cheaper and cheaper. They have tremendous amount of uncertainty around their cash flows. They're very refinanceable and callable on even the slightest move in mortgage rates. We're trying to avoid those. We are very strategic and have been, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, positioning for owning significantly more pools. I think we've got a long history of security selection. This is a tremendous source of alpha for us. It's unique to this model, right?

It's very hard for investors to go out and find mortgage pools and do the deep dive that we do. You have to be in the institutional world. It's a great opportunity for retail investors, for instance, to be able to access security selection like we can offer them.

Okay. Makes sense. Thank you.

My pleasure.

We'll go next to Jason Weaver with JonesTrading.

Hi. Good morning, guys. I was wondering if you could speak to the phasing of capital deployment over the quarter and beyond.

Yeah, absolutely. In terms of the capital, and I'll let Smriti to comment a little bit, but it is very opportunistic and methodical. We are thinking a lot about multiple components that go into that optimization for our shareholders. One of the things I think that the market often misses is total shareholder return is driven by the portfolio returns and the valuation. One thing is very clear, larger companies receive a larger valuation in this sector. That's very important part of our calculus as we think about phasing up the capital raising. It was a significant quarter for us. I'll turn it over to Smriti who will comment a little bit more.

Yeah. Hi, Jason. One of the things that we think about actively is what is the Agency MBS market, and what are the moves telling us about the inherent risk in that particular sector? One of the things that happened in the first quarter is that Agency MBS widened, but it wasn't because there was something wrong with Agency MBS per se. It wasn't a fundamental reason. They widened because the risk assets in general were weaker. We view those types of opportunities to be really significant in terms of the ability to raise and deploy capital. When we see that type of move, that's a signal to us to go put accretive capital that we're raising to work. That's really the opportunistic nature of what we're talking about.

In general, when we see those types of opportunities, you'll see us probably raise bigger blocks of capital, put the money to work. Over time, I think that criterion that we've always abided by, just making sure that the cost of capital is lower than the return on the capital that we're deploying, that remains sort of the gold standard, in terms of our willingness to raise and deploy capital over time.

Got it. That's helpful. Just so I have this correct, obviously forward ROE is going to be the biggest consideration here.

Absolutely.

Is there a downside sort of multiple and valuation that you want to avoid or you would underwrite to price above there, like on your book value multiple?

Look, we're always going to want the shares to trade at a premium to book value. I think as a business, we've now proven two things. One is the ability to deliver strong returns in some of the more challenging environments that the market's had in the last 10 years. That's thing number one. Thing number two, I think it's this idea that as we grow, we are delivering significant benefits of scale to our shareholders.

Mm-hmm.

At this point, we feel like the markets haven't necessarily taken that into account. I mean, having now firmly placed ourselves as the third largest company that's doing what we're doing, I think that part is not yet fully reflected in the share price. For us to continue to tell that story, I think that's the goal here. All else being equal, not only do we think the shares deserve to trade at book, I think we actually deserve to trade at a significant premium.

Mm-hmm. All right. Well, I appreciate that. Thanks again for the answers and congrats on the quarter.

Thanks, Jason.

Thanks, Jason.

We'll go next to Marissa Lobo with UBS.

Good morning, and thank you for taking my question today.

Of course.

Could you speak to swap spread dynamics over the quarter? How that impacted performance, and did you adjust the mix between Treasury futures and swaps during the stress period?

Thanks for the question, Marissa. The swap spread, so the interest rate swap rate relative to Treasuries is what most people are quoting there. That does tend to correlate with risky assets, much as I mentioned about the basis. When stocks trade lower, for instance, the swap spread will trade more negative and vice versa. When risky assets are doing well, the swap spread will trade less negative. We think, and we've said for several quarters now, actually probably pushing up on two years now, that we expect to be able to earn the additional yield spread that interest rate swap hedges offer relative to Treasuries. That is to say there is more yield spread available when hedging mortgages with interest rate swaps than there is when we hedge with Treasuries.

As a result, I've mentioned on the last couple of calls, we expected things to be in the 60%-80% of the portfolio hedged with interest rate swaps. We were right around 70% on a DV01 basis at quarter end, and I expect that to be roughly where we're comfortable in terms of the liquidity of hedges and being able to stay nimble with futures that trade practically 24/7, at least 24/6. I think there's a little bit of scope. We could get closer if the opportunity presents itself to be closer to 80%. Again, I think that's a really compelling spread for us to continue to earn over time and it has worked fairly well.

Appreciate that. Just moving to the GSEs, you talked about the purchase directive as resetting the spread regime tighter. How has the pace of their buying met your expectations and did the March spread widening test that backstop thesis in a meaningful way?

Yes. It did to some extent test the backdrop, and they have proven to be very value-based. I wouldn't say it's time-based so much, with that's really important for understanding the backstop, right? At wider spreads, they will be more aggressive and all indications suggest they were more aggressive at wider spread. They are fairly methodical in terms of their pool selection, so they are buying or retaining, rather, more pools than they have in the past relative to in the cash windows. I'd say overall, it is playing out roughly as we expected. There's periods of volatility. They wait, they put their hands up, say, "Okay, we'll see where value shakes out," and then they step in. Much as they did when Smriti and Byron and I sat at the Freddie Mac portfolios 25 years ago. They're operating in a very similar manner at this point.

Got it. Thanks so much for taking my questions.

Pleasure.

We'll take our next question from Merrill Ross with Compass Point.

Thank you. I wanted to kind of follow up on the previous question, but how have your expectations for inflation influenced the tenor of your interest rate swaps, noting that you moved more into the three- and five-year, and does that reflect your expectations for a steeper two to 10 spread?

Yeah, great question. The market, I'd say, in the course of the quarter waffled a lot, especially with the war in Iran. The market narrative shifted very quickly at points from one focused on inflation to one focused on growth, right? We don't know the answer. We don't predict. We prepare. We're preparing and building this portfolio to be robust to both of those regimes, potentially. I think that's really important. You saw the swap book shorten up a little bit in that three-to five-year tenor. Most of that's just aging of the swap book. We're very comfortable with how it's positioned because the view that we have here and the risk exposures that we think are the most compelling for our shareholders to earn over time is that mortgage spread relative to the interest rate curve.

We are trying to position this to achieve the yield spread and hold our book value as steady as possible. I think that is, given the way the portfolio is constructed currently for this regime, it's appropriate. I'd say overall, our highest conviction is that mortgage yield spread is what we're here to earn, and we are hedging across the curve for that reason.

To follow up on the asset side, it seems like you added more in the current and lower coupons, and avoided the higher coupons, and I'm assuming that is following on with CPR expectations.

Yeah. It's a great question because there were some really good opportunities in the initial days. It feels like a long time ago now. In mid-January, after the Trump administration's announcement that the GSEs would be more active in buying, certain coupons really outperformed. You'll see in our press release there that the 4% coupon is significantly lower than it was at year-end. That was because we took advantage of that alpha, right? There was a significant outperformance in those coupons, and we moved away from those coupons as they outperformed to diversify the book up into we added some Fannie 2s even, and then some of the higher coupons. Again, it's all more and more this market is about pool selection even, than it is about coupon selection.

When you have these kind of real quick moves and things, we're watching very closely to say, "Hey, this is out of line." The Fannie 4s, for instance, got significantly richer, and we were able to sell into that and buy pools and other coupons that were much more compelling cash flows for us.

Yeah. That's a great answer. Thank you very much.

We'll take our next question from Eric Hagen with BTIG.

Hey, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Good morning.

Maybe following up a little bit on this conversation around capital raising. Just looking at the timing of the capital raising, even just the broader philosophy around raising capital. I mean, is there anything fundamental that you'd identify in the current environment which has maybe changed the level at which you're prepared to raise capital relative to where you've raised in the past? By level, I mean the level of your stock, your valuation.

Yeah. I mean, we disclosed already, Eric, that the bulk of the capital that was raised was raised early in the quarter, when valuations were more supportive towards issuing capital versus investing. The investing environment kind of played itself out over the quarter as everybody saw with the spreads wider as the war in Iran progressed. In general, I don't think the principles have changed. When it is a good idea for us to raise, we raise. When it's a good idea to invest, we invest. The raising and deploying don't necessarily have to be simultaneous in nature. Sometimes they are, and sometimes they're not. The real principle, which I've said now, I think you can go back and check on earnings call for 3+ years.

It's really this idea of, is my cost of capital lower than the return that I can earn on that capital over time? I think that is what makes this investment environment so unique. A, that it's lasted as long as it has. B, that the forward returns in Agency MBS still continue to support active raising and deploying of capital, because over time, we believe the cost of capital is going to be lower than the return on that capital or vice versa. The return on the capital we're raising right now is actually going to be higher than the marginal cost. that has always been our operating principle. As we see the share price go up relative to book, we talked about price to book here a fair amount today. I think we're more conscious about the idea of delivering total shareholder return to our shareholders.

T.J. talked about TSR being comprised of two things. One is the actual return on our portfolio, and secondly, the price to book. We know that those are two different components and there's a trade-off between the two. That also is a factor in how much we raise and how much we deploy. A lot of what we're thinking through right now is just, number one, performance. Performance is the beginning, ending, and final arbiter of everything that we do. That's always number one. Then number two, delivering value through these other ways. Those are all factors in how we think about the pace of capital raising, deploying, et cetera.

That's really helpful.

Yeah.

Thank you. If I could sneak in one more here.

You bet.

What's your perspective on the prepayment environment as community banks are given maybe more incentive to come back into the market? Do you see that driving a lot of competition among originators?

Certainly, competition drives the refinance ability, right? That is very important construct. I think more than anything, though, as we've talked about for many, many quarters now, it's all about the technology, right? That is making it easier and easier to refinance the marginal borrower. I think that will be the dominant force over time. To the extent you have certain incentives, you're bringing it back to something we've talked about for a long time, that's policy, right? To the extent that policy shifts incentives for the players in the mortgage market, that's something we're watching very, very closely.

Great. Thank you guys so much.

At this time, there are no further questions. I'd now like to turn the call back to Smriti Popenoe for any additional or closing remarks.

I thank you all for your attention, and we look forward to updating you on our quarterly results in the second quarter. You can now close the call. Thank you.

This does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.

Good day, and welcome to the Dynex Capital, Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Alison Griffin, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Good morning. The press release associated with today's call was issued and filed with the SEC this morning, 01/26/2026. You may view the press release on the home page of the Dynex website at dynexcapital.com as well as on the SEC's website at sec.gov. Before we begin, we wish to remind you that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The words believe, expect, forecast, anticipate, estimate, project, plan, and similar expressions identify forward-looking statements that are inherently subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which cannot be predicted or quantified. The company's actual results and timing of certain events could differ considerably from those projected and/or contemplated by those forward-looking statements as a result of unforeseen external factors or risks. For additional information on these factors or risks, please refer to our disclosures filed with the SEC, which may be found on the Dynex website under Investor, as well as on the SEC's website. This conference call is being broadcast live over the Internet with a streaming slide presentation, which can be found through the webcast link on the website. The slide presentation may also be referenced under Quarterly Reports on the Investor Center page. Joining me on the call today are Byron Boston, Chairman and Co-Chief Executive Officer, Smriti Popenoe, Co-Chief Executive Officer and President, Rob Colligan, Chief Financial Officer, T.J. Connelly, Chief Investment Officer, and Mike Sartori, Head of Capital Markets. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Byron and Smriti. Good morning.

And thank you for joining us today. As we start 2026, let me anchor where we are in our company's evolution. Since I joined Dynex in 2008, the team and I have always operated and competed with a performance-first mentality and with the ethical stewardship of our shareholders' capital at the core of our decision-making. This focus has created a repeatable and sustainable performance edge, delivering industry-beating returns for our shareholders. Our principles, risk management first, treating liquidity and reputation as a strategic asset, and a culture grounded in learning, kindness, trust, and curiosity continue to differentiate us. What sets our approach apart is not the ability to predict every environment but the discipline to adapt in many environments. Resilience is what ultimately enables Dynex shareholders to enjoy compounding over decades. Our framework gives us the confidence to lean into the right moments of opportunity and endure turbulence without being forced to retreat. You can even advance during periods of dislocation while others pull back. Over time, those small behavioral advantages have compounded into meaningful performance differences, creating the foundation to propel us to this phase of Dynex, at the start of this decade.

Our strong start in 2020 gave us the springboard to create a resilient company at the intersection of capital markets and real estate finance. The decisions we made early this decade to intentionally raise capital in smaller amounts, gradually building our equity base while generating top-tier returns, set the foundation for today's sustained value-creating growth. Our momentum continues to rise as we methodically execute our strategy, and the results speak clearly. Over this decade through 12/31/2025, Dynex shareholders experienced a 67% total return, or nearly 9% annualized with dividends reinvested, outperforming the 8,000 basis points or 700 basis points annually. 2025 was an outstanding year. Dynex shareholders earned a 29.4% total shareholder return, driven by both dividend income and significant share price performance, in a year marked by policy complexity, shifting rate expectations, and geopolitical crosscurrents. As of the end of last week, our total equity market capitalization, including our preferred shares, was $3 billion. In just thirteen months, we have almost tripled the size of our company, creating resilience, strategic flexibility, and scale for our shareholders. Delivering these results required an accelerated significant evolution across the company. We added depth and breadth across the team, building our legal team with a new chief legal officer and our investments team with two senior investment professionals. We planned, commissioned, and delivered two new offices in Richmond and New York City, and we have successfully made a transition to T.J. Connelly as our chief investment officer. To reflect the needs of our growing strategically focused enterprise, we separated the roles of Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Rob Colligan, who held both titles, will take on an expanded CFO function, including the building out of our corporate development capabilities. Today, we welcome Meekin Bennett as our new Chief Operating Officer. A seasoned operator with deep financial and operational expertise from Fannie Mae, Morgan Stanley, and GE Capital, and a US Navy veteran, Meekin brings leadership and discipline to strengthen our platform. She will lead the modernization of our operational backbone to enable scalable, efficient growth for the long term. Looking ahead, we are operating our business in a rapidly changing global landscape. Human conflict remains the key factor, creating surprises that result in policy and market volatility. We have been prepared for the greater possibility of a wider range of outcomes for some years now. We have called this a flat fat-tailed distribution. It has tilted our risk appetite towards liquidity and flexibility. Demographic trends in developed economies are reshaping growth, fiscal capacity, and the cost of capital. For years, low rates and central bank support masked the rising pressures. But in the end, fewer workers, savers, and taxpayers make growth harder to generate and debt more expensive to carry. Policymakers face increasing temptation to use inflation or manage markets as a pressure release, and this pattern is global. In such an environment, government policy can mean simultaneously increased risk and opportunity. This has been true for us since 2020. Our portfolio construction continues to reflect the reality of shifting policy across a variety of factors, including active government intervention in the housing market and monetary policy. On the other hand, the global demand for income continues to rise, and that creates a powerful backdrop for our capital-raising strategy. Investors across the world are searching for stable, repeatable cash flows in an environment marked by demographic shifts, funding gaps, and persistent volatility. Platforms that can deliver high-quality income, with stewardship transparency, liquidity, and disciplined risk management are increasingly scarce. Dynex sits directly in that space, and our ability to generate reliable dividends backed by a resilient portfolio naturally attracts capital that is seeking durable income. At the same time, the continued expansion of passive provides an additional structural tailwind. As passive vehicles grow, they are required to own larger positions in companies with scale and liquidity. Raising capital at accretive levels expands our equity base, improves trading liquidity, and increases Dynex's relevance within these passive strategies. The combination of rising global demand for income and the mechanical bid from passive capital strengthens our shareholder base, lowers our cost of capital, and drives the long-term compounding that we aim to deliver. These factors support the building of Dynex for scale and strength, growing the company in ways that embed resilience into the core of our model, so we can navigate a wider set of outcomes and keep delivering long-term value. We are evolving our business steadily and will continue to fine-tune people, process, technology, and structure to stay aligned with our strategy. The company is well-positioned, and we are prepared for the next phase of our journey, grounded in our strategy, anchored by our core values, and focused on long-term value creation. I'll now turn it over to the team to detail more of how this strategy is being put to work and to share our results for the year. T.J.?

Thank you, Smriti. This decade, we have emphasized that government policy is one of the most powerful forces shaping asset returns, often more influential than traditional fundamentals alone. Government policy played a large role in driving returns last year and continues to do so in 2026. In a year that began with an unusual degree of macro uncertainty, our portfolio total economic return was 10.2% in the fourth quarter, and 21.7% for 2025, the highest TER this decade. We entered 2025 mortgages at historically widespread to interest rate hedges, and a high degree of policy uncertainty. This presented an excellent opportunity to raise and deploy capital at higher leverage and wider spreads. And the strength in our results reflects the effectiveness of this strategy. We raised capital methodically and consistently deployed it into assets at wider spreads, supporting compelling future dividends for our shareholders. As we begin 2026, spreads have tightened further, and policy direction in the MBS market has become far clearer. Recent actions and guidance now point toward a more stable and supportive framework for the mortgage market, creating a strong foundation for forward returns and greater confidence in the path ahead for MBS spreads. Our capital raising was led by Mark Sartori, our head of capital markets, and he will give you more details.

Thanks, T.J. We pursue a distinctive strategic capital-raising approach and partner closely with our brokerage counterparts to execute Dynex's disciplined strategy. In 2025, we executed our capital-raising strategy with precision and intention. We raised capital accretively through the at-the-market program and worked hand in hand across the team to invest and hedge the capital on a real-time basis. This approach allowed us to maintain tight alignment between stronger valuations on our stock and wide mortgage spreads. Over the course of the year, we raised and invested over $1 billion as our price-to-book valuation rose. As we move into 2026, we will continue to follow the same methodical, disciplined playbook. We expect to issue when it is accretive, deploying the capital in investments generating economic returns above our hurdle rate. In the first few trading days of January, we raised nearly $350 million, and share count as of last Thursday was 199,600,000. T.J. will further discuss the year ahead.

Thanks, Mike. While MBS spreads are tighter today than they were for much of last year, the overall return environment might be even better, driven by policy support for housing finance, higher liquidity, and an environment with more opportunities to tactically create value. The Trump administration's recent announcement to increase the GSE retained portfolios by $200 billion marks a return to portfolio growth for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, providing a meaningful technical tailwind for spreads. For Dynex, this is a positive. It supports valuations, and it will likely reset the spread regime tighter while limiting spread widening. The impact of the GSEs is unique. The backstop bid, especially focused on spreads, allows a host of investors to reassess the amount of spread risk they are willing to take. We believe the impact will return us to a tighter range in spreads with limited spread widening, possibly like that seen before the financial crisis. As you will see on the left-hand side of the spread chart in our earnings presentation on page 12, we expect a return to this type of spread environment would enhance the risk-return profile of the assets we own and provide attractive returns for our ongoing capital deployment. Even before the GSE buying announcement, we expected demand to overwhelm supply in 2026, led by bank demand of over $100 billion. While we expect the GSEs to be price-sensitive buyers, and even for money managers to slowly reduce their MBS overweight as spreads tighten, the supply and demand balance in agency mortgages will likely lean towards higher net demand for many quarters. As the GSE retained portfolios grow, it is unclear how they will hedge. We are also mindful that in past periods of high portfolio growth, the GSEs had active hedging programs, and swaps would be their most likely hedge if they chose to hedge duration. We also expect that GSE convexity hedging would impact technicals in the market for options. The administration appears clearly focused on reducing mortgage rates, and we remain focused on managing and mitigating convexity risk. The fourth quarter prepayment environment reinforced one of the clearest lessons of the year: Security selection remains the most reliable and consistent source of alpha in agency MBS. In a market characterized by low but uneven turnover and periodic spikes in refinancing, avoiding the most prepayment-sensitive collateral was essential for protecting carry and reducing reinvestment risk amid the periodic interest rate volatility. Prepayment dispersion is increasingly driven by micro-level factors that reward granular pool work. Technology-enabled optimization at originators and servicers continues to make refinance and retention outreach more targeted and efficient. The fourth quarter data reaffirmed that generating alpha in agency MBS is not simply about coupon exposure. It is about owning the right pools within those coupons. Our positioning reflects that lesson, avoiding prepayment-sensitive stories and emphasizing structurally more stable collateral. Relative value will also play a larger role in tech asset allocation, not only within coupons but within sectors. Of course, mortgage returns are driven not just by spread risk but also interest rate volatility risk. Given the policy dynamics in today's markets, we expect and plan for periodic bouts of volatility. Our yield curve exposure is more balanced as the greatest clarity on the policy front is for tighter mortgage spreads. As policy and economic data evolve, we will continually evaluate the curve exposures in our hedge. While longer maturity yields currently offer the potential for larger dispersion than shorter maturity yields, we are mindful that changes in Federal Reserve policy or personnel could shift even shorter maturity yields meaningfully. We strategically added options positions in 2025 to reduce the portfolio's exposure to rate volatility and expect that options will continue to be important in the coming quarters to manage risk. While policy can evolve quickly, the agency MBS market looks likely to be supported by a strong tailwind, and the leverage returns for earnings spread income in the best segments of this market remain compelling. Our team at Dynex has a long history of extracting equity-like returns from fixed income in this kind of market regime. We rely on the principle to prepare, not predict. We operate with a flexible mindset, resisting the kind of rigid thinking that could lead us to alter portfolios at exactly the wrong moments. Our scenario planning gives us the confidence to hold exposures through stress and to stay open to opportunities when others are constrained. That flexibility gives us tremendous optionality and helps us avoid the behavioral traps that destroy value, which is why we have been able to deliver differentiated performance across cycles. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Rob, who will give you more details on our outstanding quarter. Thank you, T.J.

The total economic return in the fourth quarter was 10.2%, consisting of $0.51 of common dividends and a $0.78 increase in book value per share. For the year, our book value increased 75¢, and we declared $2 of dividends per common share, which are paid on a monthly basis. Comprehensive income for the quarter was $190 million and was $354 million for the year. We ended the quarter with leverage of 7.3 times total equity. Our liquidity position remained very strong with $1.4 billion in cash, unencumbered securities at the end of the quarter, representing over 55% of total equity. As mentioned earlier, we have raised $1.5 billion over the last thirteen months, at the most accretive levels in the company's history. Beyond the resilience and stability that a larger capital base provides, we understand that a larger, more liquid company typically earns a better valuation metric. It's important to us as stewards of your capital to keep these factors in mind as we grow. The TBA and mortgage-backed securities portfolio started the year at $9.8 billion, grew to $15.8 billion at the September, and ended the year at $19.4 billion. We continue to add to the portfolio after year-end and currently have $22 billion in TBAs and mortgages. Pools and TBAs we've held and added this year benefited from spread tightening in the second half of the year, which accelerated into year-end and continued into 2026. Our current book value, which has been in the range of $13.85 to $14.05 per share, net of the accrued dividend, is up 3% to 4% from year-end. For our year-end tax disclosure, we're estimating that we have $229 million of taxable earnings, covering all of our preferred dividend and 93% of our common dividend, which will be treated as ordinary income. The remaining 7% is a non-dividend distribution. Our dividend tax reporting will be posted to our company's website by the end of the month. Expenses for the fourth quarter were up as our accrual for performance-related compensation increased, lining up with the strong returns delivered in 2025. Our general and administrative expenses as a percentage of capital are down materially year over year from 2.9% of total equity at the close of last year to 2.1% at the close of 2025. We continue to make investments in people and technology to ensure Dynex is built for the future, and our expense ratio may stay at the year-end 2025 levels until additional growth is delivered and new breakpoints and levels of scale are achieved. With that, I'll turn the call back to Smriti for her closing comments.

Thank you, Rob. As we look ahead, we remain focused on disciplined execution and delivering durable long-term value for our shareholders. We are deeply grateful for the trust you place in us. Trust is a core value at Dynex, and ultimately, the product we work to deliver every day. And as a management team invested alongside shareholders, our interests are aligned with yours. And we are committed to stewarding your capital with integrity, transparency, and care. I will now open the call to questions.

Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, that is star one to signal for a question, and we'll take our first question from Doug Harter with UBS. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Hoping you could quantify where you see incremental investment returns today and how that compares to know, kind of year-end and 09/30 just given the you know, the spread tightening that we've seen? Yeah. Absolutely. Good morning, Doug. Today, we see hedged ROEs in the mid-teens with leverage around seven times. And with targeted leverage in the low eights, we see ROEs in the mid to high teens. So as we get even more clarity on the return environment with the with the you know, return of these native GSE balance sheets, there's scope for modestly higher leverage, I think, in private portfolios. And I guess just how that compares to to say three months ago just given the spread tightening just kind of wanna make sure I understand. You know, how the dynamics changed. Yeah. The dynamic is is roughly it's you know, depending on the coupon between a hundred and fifty and three hundred basis points tighter. Than it was, let's say, at the end of end of last quarter. Or the prior quarter, third quarter that is.

Yeah. I think I think the biggest difference, Doug, is that before the GSE balance sheets were announced, as being active participants, you did have the risk of spreads widening significantly as we saw during periods of volatility in 2022, 2023, during the tariff tantrum last year. And what this does, it it really takes a big part of that tail risk out So, yes, returns are lower, but also the ability for spreads to widen out a whole bunch because of the return on these balance sheets has also improved what I think of as the risk-return profile going forward. The other thing that this does is once you have these native balance sheets back in business, Other investors other than ourselves begin to reevaluate the risk reward. And if don't have that big downside risk from spread widening, this starts to be a really compelling space. Right? These are agency guaranteed assets. You're still earning double-digit returns. So it ends up being actually a pretty good investment environment.

If if I could just push back on the risk reward, I mean, I think, you know, clearly, you know, what you had talked about, you know, in prior past couple calls was given the widespread you know, just how attractive the risk reward was and and clearly, you know, correct given given the spread tightening you seen. So I guess just trying to square that, given the amount of return that you've kind of already generated you know, given the spread tightening, you know, with those comments. So just just wanna make sure I understand that dynamic. Yeah. I mean I mean, risk reward rewarded by

upside as well as downside. Right? One of the things that's been taken out of the picture here if this policy sticks and if this ends up being a situation where GSE balance sheets are here and they're here for the duration. What that does is it limits your downside risk. So the upside risk may not be as high as it was when they weren't around, But taking away downside risk is a meaningful difference in terms of your forward return profile.

So, yes, the the

you know, in in 2022 to 2025, you did have an unusual situation. I mean, we called it a generational opportunity. Right? So you had a generational opportunity to to generate outsized returns. And with the return of these balance sheets, what's happened is that you're downside is much less. Than it was in the last three years. And that's that's when I when I say risk reward, it's it's really the risk goes down relative to the reward.

I'll just add to that, Doug. It's all about scenario planning. We are constantly planning for a range of scenarios, especially when it comes to the risk profile of the portfolio, And since the announcement that is very clear that this administration is deeply concerned about mortgage spreads, We have to talk about it as a team and say, look. The probability of going to that widespread again is lower than it was before. And that changes the the risk reward profile that Smriti's talking about.

Alright.

I appreciate the detailed answer. Thank you guys very much. Pleasure.

If you find your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by We go next to the line of Trevor Cranston with Citizens JMP.

Can you guys talk a little bit about you know, how you're thinking about the probability of other you know, sort of politically motivated actions to attempt to improve housing affordability or lower mortgage rates you know, potentially through things like lowering the g fees that Fannie and Freddie are charging and kind of how that plays into how you're thinking about investments right now? Thanks.

Hi, Trevor. Thanks. Good good morning. So, yes, I mean, think I think we are you know, I'll just zoom back a little bit here.

You know, in the nineties and the 2 thousands,

the GSEs were very much a an instrument of of managing housing in The US. Right? Like, these are entities that have been around for a long time. They've been active participants in facilitating liquidity in the housing market. And they've also been directly or indirectly asked to to change the way housing gets gets really implemented in The US. Right? So you can think about affordability goals back in the nineties and February. Those existed back then as well. Right? So the the the history of government intervention or wanting to influence where capital actually gets put That's not new. This is this has been around for some time, and these entities have been around. And and they're they've been made to do exactly this. Right? So so when you have that in the back of your mind, is it is it possible that that the government does use these entities to implement, housing policy that they believe is is, you know, better for Americans in terms of lowering home homeownership costs and so on? Absolutely. Right? So this this is not new. So would you know, will they do lowering of of g fees? We've heard that being talked about. We've heard about loan level pricing adjustments being taken away. All of that is very much real and possible. And I'll let T.J. talk about sort of the impact on mortgage rates and the convexity of mortgages, but we are very much anticipating and prepared for this type of intervention to happen. And what you want to do as an investor is prepare for the impacts of any and all of these potential levers that could be pulled. T.J., why don't you talk about just convexity impacting the market?

Right. And I'll just give you a quick sense of the, you know, day to day, Trevor. You know, Byron and Smriti work and and I work very closely with our partners in Washington folks at the Mortgage Bankers Association, for instance. Hearing about these potential proposals that could impact the prepayment profile of the mortgages that we own and how we bid ongoing mortgage for the portfolio as we reinvest. And the day to day is that we're we're hearing about these things, and then we come back model them in our prepayment models, think about how the prepayment both the, you know, turnover component and the prepayment component, refinance component, that is will impact the prepays in our portfolio and what we'll do to the broader mortgage market. And we're taking that feedback back to folks like the Mortgage Bankers Association who are talking with the FHFA and place like that. So it's very much a reflective relationship and we're, you know, constantly modeling out how it might impact the mortgage market. You know, to date, I think most of the it certainly impacts how we think about the most prepay sensitive mortgages that are out there. It continues to create more marginal demand and and result in model valuing a lot of the prepayment protection that we already own even higher than it did before. So I would just I know, as I look at the proposals, it's increasingly hard to find the kind of prepaid protected portfolio that you get with our with our portfolio.

Yeah. I think I think the bottom line is there is is gonna be more negative convexity, and there's also the possibility that other other instruments you know, back in the day, we used to have prepayment protection mortgages. Those are being talked about. You know, we could see the ARM market come back in favor, especially in a steep yield curve environment. So, you know, we we we said this in in the call. Basically, like, you know, government policy can create both risk and opportunity at the same time, and then this is what we're we're ready to be investing in.

Yep. Okay. That's very helpful. Then can you give an update on kinda where you've the capital raised in January?

Sort of within the coupon stack and and where you guys are finding the best value post the movement that's happened since the GSE bond was announced?

Thanks.

Yes. We're finding that the belly of the coupon stack primarily fives, has been the most interesting. But I will say it's been a very dynamic market, much more you know, I've talked for a long time about the the breadth of coupons in which we can invest. And we're finding pockets of opportunities on the specified pool side across bond stacking coupons that, frankly, we hadn't traded in in several quarters. So it's really across the board. If I had to to point to a single coupon, I'd say it's fives in the and five and a halfs to some extent. But, again, seeing opportunities across the stack for, you know, on the specified pool side. coupons that offer durable call protection

Got it. Okay. Thanks very much. We go next to the line of Jason Weaver with Jones Trading. Please go ahead.

Congrats on capping off a very solid 2025.

Okay. Thank you. I wanna start with, you know, effectively growing the company by a huge leap like you said in your prepared comments over the course of the last thirteen months. What's your thinking today around the appropriate size of the portfolio in context with what the current opportunity set is out there? Yeah. Currently, as far as the opportunity set, I'll I'll start there, and and Smriti, you can talk more about just the benefits of scale as a company. When I think about the the opportunity set, it it's growing dramatically for us in terms of like I just said to to Trevor's question, the market dynamics are such that there's more and more opportunities across the coupon stack. This team has operated we have a team that's actually many of us were actually at the agencies in the nineteen nineties. We've operated in this environment for a long time. But it's pretty exciting the amount of alpha that we can produce. Beyond just a a classic spread trade, which is still compelling. The amount of alpha that's available is significant. So when I think of this this portfolio, relative to the size of the market, we can be significantly bigger and still have tremendous opportunities to generate alpha. But I'll let Smriti talk to some of the benefits of the scale as well.

Yeah. I mean, one of the one of the things that we've been able to do is go you know, lean on the back of our performance track record which came without the benefit of scale. And now, you know, investors are getting the larger equity base as as as something that's a real benefit coming straight down to the bottom line. I I still think there's a lot of sense for the company to keep growing, you know, in in terms of resilience, in terms of being able to withstand the types of scenarios that we think are coming up in the future. It makes a lot of sense for us to keep growing. The investment environment, again, it shifts all the time. We might be moving from, you know, what we think of as, like, a a a beta environment where it was just e I'm not gonna say easy, but, know, you could own mortgages. And spreads tightened, then you'd win. Now we're getting in an environment where yes, you have tighter mortgage spreads. You have to be cleverer. In your portfolio management skills to to earn that return. And having said that, look. Our, you know, dividend yields are down. Right? Like, a year ago, you you were being asked to generate 17% return by the market, and we're down to close to fourteen. So that that also helps in that in this situation.

Got it. Thank you for that. And then just one more maybe for Rob. We saw the G and A run rate bumped up in the fourth quarter. I'm assuming that as to to do with incentive comp. What would you we think about the forward run rate here?

Yeah. Good question. Thanks. You're exactly right. Good performance sometimes leads to increased incentive compensation accruals, and that's exactly what happened in the fourth quarter. As I mentioned in the prepared comments, we are building scale. So we're thinking of our expenses in the 2% of capital range for now. You know, obviously, as we go through the quarters, we'll give you some updates We do plan on hiring some additional people, adding to the team, the timing of those hires could impact the run rate. But that's what we're thinking at the at the current moment. And then as we grow, I do think we'll have opportunities to hit other layers or levels of scale can reduce a little bit further, but we're not thinking about that immediately in 2026.

Alright. Thanks again. That's good color.

Our next question comes from the line of Bose George with KBW.

Hey, everyone. Good morning.

Just going back to the earlier discussion with Doug on returns,

in terms of returns going forward, do you see room for more upside from spread tightening? Or is it really more of a stable dividend just given the volatility is should be more muted going forward?

Yeah. I think that, you know, when we talk about the spread regime, I'd point you to page 12, both I think there's a really good case to be made that you can return to a tighter spread regime, much more like we saw throughout the late nineties and into the early two thousands. You know? And it's not just because of the GSEs. It's it's it's really, or they're buying, that is. It's really about the the backstop. And the support from the, you know, from the government that you're potentially getting. Allows all investors to take more risks. So, yeah, I I think there's, you know, you know, on a stand-alone basis, the ROEs are compelling. The yield profile that we can garner from this portfolio remains compelling. And there's the potential for significant spread tightening back to that kind of regime.

And then just to follow-up on, you know, the GOCs. What do you think happens once the GSEs get closer to that $200 billion cap? Do you think it it gets extended? Or how do you see their longer-term role in the market?

It certainly seems to me. I've I've never seen before tweets from someone like the f or, you know, a report from someone like the FHFA or any any entity like that in history that focused on mortgage spreads. Not just mortgage rates, but on mortgage spreads. That that is a very different thing, and to me indicates that we are in a a a unique environment. So to your question, it's hard for me to see how $200 billion is necessarily the cap. I I think it could be significantly more, and we know that that it can be changed quite easily by the FHFA and or treasury pretty quickly.

So okay. Great. Thank you.

We'll move next to Jason Stewart with Compass Point.

One more follow-up. On levered returns. T.J., just so I'm clear, the mid-teens and high-teens, it's seven and eight times, that's a a carry return. It doesn't incorporate this new spread regime moving tighter, correct? And then just to follow-up on that, if you could address when you're thinking about context of ROEs, how are you thinking about hedging that book? Great. Yeah. The to answer your question, yes. That is a carry ROE. It assumes no additional spread tightening. That's absolutely correct. Those numbers that I quoted. And then the the second part of your question was thinking about the hedge book Two things. One, on the composition of the hedge book, swaps offer a significant amount of carry relative to treasuries by hedging and swaps, that is. Relative to treasuries. So two-three, one-three has been our mix roughly for quite some time. I expect that that will be the case to maybe be slightly biased more towards swaps at points, you know, potentially in the 60 to 80% of range as a as a percent of our total hedge book. On the interest rate swap side of things. Heads interest rate swaps do tend to be a very natural hedge for the portfolio. And when the environment we've talked in the past about the macro factors that impact swaps relative to treasuries. And I think those factors remain supportive of us hedging with with interest rate swaps. In terms of curve positioning, I'll note that our curve position is you'll see it in our scenario analysis. The risk profile slides that are in the deck. Much closer to to home in terms of a little bit less of a steepening bias Longer term, I do expect we will have a a steepening bias in the portfolio. But, you know, as as the yield curve has kind of found a new equilibrium around these levels, we've we've found it prudent to allow the portfolio to be more balanced.

Okay. Thank you for that. Hey,

shock value I can I just add something just be because it it seems like there's just a a component of this in terms of how much spreads have tightened? In the last year, over the last two or three years. One of the things I just want to remind everyone is that the environment that we just are coming from, that we've just come from, is the unusual environment. To see agency MBS spreads at those levels, one fifty, one sixty, one eighty over treasuries, I mean, those those are unusual environments. And and we have gone out and raised capital and put capital to work. And and and as I said, we call this a generational opportunity. Right? What we're coming back to is really how things have been for most of the time. In in in this in the housing finance system. What we're coming back to is a more normal, quote, unquote, normal world where you have some type of native balance sheet that's that's owning these mortgage assets, acting as a buffer, Right? Spreads are now in a much more, quote, unquote, normalized range, and you have the opportunity to earn returns not just from owning MBS versus a hedge, but you you you have opportunities from relative value. You can do curve positioning, and this idea, this is more normal, and we're coming from an unusual Okay? So that's a perspective I think you know, it's it's it's the unusual environment is is, quote, unquote, over. But we are just coming back to what we see as a very normalized environment. For the GSEs, a lot of people on this team were there when they were

public.

We understand and know this structure. To your question about, you know, happens when the $200,000,000 runs out, they can issue debt They can do lots of things to grow the size of their balance sheet. We we know very well how that process works. So it for us to to be to make money in that environment is actually there are opportunities for us to do that. So that's something I don't want people to miss out on is that, you know, we're just coming back from an unusual period to what is a more normal period.

Yep. That's good color. Thank you for adding that.

Sure. I I just have one other question. You mentioned corporate development capabilities in your prepared remarks. And I was just wondering if you could elaborate on that and whether that had anything to do with potential policy changes, or or maybe you could just take one more step on that comment.

of delivering scale Absolutely. Yeah. Look, I think a big part to shareholders and strategic flexibility to shareholders we have to have the capability to evaluate all types of opportunities. You know, Dynex has been a company that over time we've delivered to shareholders a lot of different clever, diversified strategies through the history of the company. And our job is to always have the ability to evaluate those so that if such options exist and they should be exercised, we're ready to do that.

Right?

So that's a big part of, you know, thinking more strategically about the balance sheet, about the investment opportunities that we have versus others that come up. All of that is in in the in the spirit creating options for our shareholders, which

I believe is

one of one of the jobs that I have.

Just one. Okay. Great. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks.

Once again, that is star one to signal for a We turn to Eric Hagen with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Hey. Thanks for sneaking me in. Appreciate you. So this emphasis on lower interest rates and lower mortgage rates is very real. I mean, do you think this pressure on the Fed to cut rates is good and supportive of the market right now? Do you think it will be effective And do you think it eventually just creates maybe a situation where there's just more interest rate volatility and the the well, the volatility is more one directional anyway. Thank you, guys.

Sure. Hi. Hi, Eric. So one of the things we've been ready for for some time is this idea that there's more and more government intervention. In the market. Right? And in my prepared remarks, talked about you know, when you have fewer savers, fewer taxpayers, it's harder to carry the amount of debt that we have in The US and other places in the world. Debt to GDP, etcetera, etcetera. So it's it's not unusual in in this these types of situations for there to be explicit efforts to to influence monetary policy and other other policy, including you know, what mortgage rates are gonna be. So that's not unusual for us. That's what we've been expecting, and that's what we we plan for. Right? Now how it actually comes to pass in terms of whether, you know, whether it's through personnel changes or whatever else that they that the actual rate gets pegged or or lowered or whatever that is. I don't know. I mean, we can't predict that. But we are prepared for this idea that, you know, front end rates could be influenced by something other than just fundamentals. Right? And you guys have heard us talk about this, this idea of fundamentals, technical psychology. Now we talk about fundamentals, psychology, policy. And a lot of times, fundamentals and policy could be divergent. And when you're sitting in that environment, you have to really be ready for a lot of different things. So, you know, just just from the perspective of can it happen? We believe there's a high probability of of of that happening, and we are preparing for that. Will it happen? How it happens? Very hard to tell. There are benefits, obviously, to the agency MBS market. To the extent that, you know, front end rates are lower. I mean, that makes them more attractive to to hold. But that's that's really not we're not counting on that happening for any of our strategies to work out. I'll let T.J. talk about the mortgage piece because these guys have been really focused on, how just having the mortgage rate move independently of other rates that really creates an interesting dynamic in in the portfolio, and he's these guys have been working on, you know, mitigating that risk for some time now.

Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. As, you know, Smriti mentioned, we we have four arrows in our analytics quiver policy, fundamental, technicals, and psychology. That those are the four lenses through which we look at the markets. And as we look at each component of the yield curve, we're thinking a lot about okay, the mortgage rate in isolation, the Fed funds policy rate, SOFR rates in isolation, those sorts of things. So as we isolate those and think about the volatility profile for each component of the yield curve as well as know, each every coupon of the mortgage coupon stack. Policy could implement you know, could impact any any one of those components. So it's something we we spend a lot of time thinking about in terms of our hedge book and the volatility profile of the portfolio.

You know, one of the other pieces here, Eric, is that is that we've been in an environment where the market sometimes don't know how to price a lot of this uncertainty. And so it be it's it's a very it ends up looking calm Right? And then when there is some kind of announcement, you have about a volatility. Right? So it's a very different type of of strategy During the moments of calm, you're able to earn the OAS. You're able to earn, you know, sort of like the carry from shorting options. Right? During the moments of volatility, you'd better have enough liquidity To be able to manage yourself through that scenario. So that is another way to to think about it.

So, yeah, you guys very much.

My pleasure.

Sorry. I was gonna ask one more just really quickly here. I mean, move for your book value up 4% since year-end. I mean, that's a good move, but maybe we expected it to be up a little bit more. I mean, has your leverage been stable And maybe just, like, the the immediate reaction on that on the back of that 20 or 30 basis points of spread tightening on the back of the announcement? Like, how is that how did that unfold for you guys? Yeah. Obviously, you know, on it and

immediate reaction when when book value increases, leverage goes down mathematically. And, you know, I mentioned the seven to eight kind of range when I discussed the ROEs, and and that's generally where we expect this portfolio will will land for the better part of the next several quarters. As the opportunities arise, we take it up and down from there. So you know, our our we feel very comfortable that we can earn the kind of spreads that we are seeking to earn and that our shareholders are expecting to support the dividend. With these ROEs that leverage between seven and eight.

Great. Thank you guys for the color. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Eric.

At this time, we have no further signals. I'd like to turn the floor back to our speakers for any additional or closing remarks.

Thank you. Thanks, everyone, for joining us today, and we look forward to updating you on our first quarter results in April.

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